This video clip features a discussion from the “Whatever” podcast, with host Brian Atlas and several female guests, intercut with reactions from another man (likely another content creator).
The conversation revolves around the roles of men and women in relationships, specifically concerning leadership and followership.
- Brian Atlas (host) initiates by stating that women want a man who is a leader but are unwilling to be followers. He advises them to stop demanding leaders if they aren’t prepared to follow.
- A female guest (long dark hair, red top) challenges this, arguing that a leader guides and doesn’t command or order people around.
- The reacting man (dark hair, beard, patterned shirt) dismisses her definition, saying “That’s a guidance counselor, that’s not a leader.”
- Another female guest (blonde, pink top) then questions if a man who is “leading” is also “paying all her bills” and providing everything.
- The reacting man asks what the man gets in return if he is providing.
- The blonde guest states she’s fine “doing certain things” if the man is providing and showing he cares, giving examples from past relationships like a partner not wanting her to put her arm around other people in photos.
- Atlas gives an example of “guiding” by saying, “I’m guiding you not to go to the club.”
- The blonde guest mentions she’s dated club promoters. Atlas dismisses her personal experience, saying they’re speaking in generalities and that for another woman (implying the first guest), not going to clubs wouldn’t harm her career.
The core of the discussion is a disagreement on the definition of male leadership in a relationship and the expectations placed on both partners.